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<mail>
<nbr>25.2</nbr>
<nbr>25.3</nbr>
<subject>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; The Piran Nettime Manifesto</subject>
<from>Mark Stahlman (via RadioMail)</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
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</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>1.0</nbr>
<nbr>0.1</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; Re: Concerned about terrorism in Kosovo</subject>
<from>Aleksandar &amp; Branka Davic</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
@@ -135,6 +135,89 @@ albanians, as well as jews, hungarians, romanian, slowaks, roma, croats,
russians, bulgarians.. . i wonder what they would have to say to your
letter...
---
# distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission
# &lt;nettime&gt; is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism,
# collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets
# more info: majordomo {AT} icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body
# URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner {AT} icf.de
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>0.2</nbr>
<subject>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Re: Concerned about terrorism in Kosovo</subject>
<from>rvdbri</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
<date>Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:45:33 +0100</date>
<content>
Aart wrote:
&gt;OK Richard van den Brink,
&gt;
&gt;I've seen and read the report by Albanian secessionist magazine (all
&gt;articles unsigned) which You have recommended to me.
&gt;Well, first those photos. What do You think that Serbian four policemen
&gt;who were killed by Kosova Liberation Army looked less massacred than
&gt;these Albanians on photos?
No reason trying to outbid with other pictures or facts. What is
disquieting me is that the nettime list is used for an outspoken political
point of (Servian) view on the conflict in Kosovo. For me it's ok that this
kind of opinions are existing, but I don't need to read those on a list as
nettime. In the same way I wouldn't propagandize to read information on
certain sites I was recommending as a kind of counter balance.
It would be possible to start a discussion about the Kosovo conflict here,
but I don't think its the propper place. Therefore I suggest - if I am
right - to modorate the list in a better way.
Richard
---
# distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission
# &lt;nettime&gt; is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism,
# collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets
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# URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner {AT} icf.de
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>0.3</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; Re: Concerned about terrorism in Kosovo</subject>
<from>antiorp</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
<date>Sun, 8 Mar 1998 05:54:02 -0600</date>
<content>
&gt;We in Yugoslavia are very concerned about the increasing of terrorist
serb!an akt!v!t!ez.
http://www.god-emil.dk/=cw4t7abs/0f0003/produkter/film+video.html
kl!k 0
am -3r! kk a 5 u g3 r _||-
&gt; Serb military and paramilitary forces attacked today 14 villages in Kosove.
&gt; 95++ d ea d.
www.albanian.com
www.koha.net
www.dardania.com
www.kosova.de
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@@ -267,89 +350,6 @@ doesn't mention that.For some reason the README doesn't mention that.For
some reason the README doesn't mention that.
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>1.1</nbr>
<subject>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Re: Concerned about terrorism in Kosovo</subject>
<from>rvdbri</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
<date>Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:45:33 +0100</date>
<content>
Aart wrote:
&gt;OK Richard van den Brink,
&gt;
&gt;I've seen and read the report by Albanian secessionist magazine (all
&gt;articles unsigned) which You have recommended to me.
&gt;Well, first those photos. What do You think that Serbian four policemen
&gt;who were killed by Kosova Liberation Army looked less massacred than
&gt;these Albanians on photos?
No reason trying to outbid with other pictures or facts. What is
disquieting me is that the nettime list is used for an outspoken political
point of (Servian) view on the conflict in Kosovo. For me it's ok that this
kind of opinions are existing, but I don't need to read those on a list as
nettime. In the same way I wouldn't propagandize to read information on
certain sites I was recommending as a kind of counter balance.
It would be possible to start a discussion about the Kosovo conflict here,
but I don't think its the propper place. Therefore I suggest - if I am
right - to modorate the list in a better way.
Richard
---
# distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission
# &lt;nettime&gt; is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism,
# collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets
# more info: majordomo {AT} icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body
# URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner {AT} icf.de
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>1.2</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; Re: Concerned about terrorism in Kosovo</subject>
<from>antiorp</from>
<to>nettime-l@desk.nl</to>
<date>Sun, 8 Mar 1998 05:54:02 -0600</date>
<content>
&gt;We in Yugoslavia are very concerned about the increasing of terrorist
serb!an akt!v!t!ez.
http://www.god-emil.dk/=cw4t7abs/0f0003/produkter/film+video.html
kl!k 0
am -3r! kk a 5 u g3 r _||-
&gt; Serb military and paramilitary forces attacked today 14 villages in Kosove.
&gt; 95++ d ea d.
www.albanian.com
www.koha.net
www.dardania.com
www.kosova.de
---
# distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission
# &lt;nettime&gt; is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism,
# collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets
# more info: majordomo {AT} icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body
# URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner {AT} icf.de
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
@@ -4849,7 +4849,7 @@ disciplines the m&#248;del of civilization.
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>25.0</nbr>
<nbr>24.1</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; Sender: owner-nettime-l {AT} bbs.thing.n</subject>
<from>integer</from>
<to>nettime-l@bbs.thing.net</to>
@@ -5377,7 +5377,7 @@ Netochka Nezvanova
</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>27.0</nbr>
<nbr>26.1</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; [ot] [!nt] \n2+0\</subject>
<from>integer</from>
<to>nettime-l@bbs.thing.net</to>
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&gt; SPECTRE list for media culture in All Europe</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>3.5</nbr>
<nbr>3.5-p.114-2</nbr>
<subject>[spectre] Deep Europe</subject>
<from>Bruce Sterling</from>
<to>spectre@mikrolisten.de</to>
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Please do!</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>4.3</nbr>
<nbr>4.3-p.138-2</nbr>
<subject>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; limits of networks...</subject>
<from>David Garcia</from>
<to>nettime-l@kein.org</to>
@@ -4373,7 +4373,7 @@ that.
hey hauffeur step on the gas &amp; run over the frog</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>7.12</nbr>
<nbr>7.12-p.155-2</nbr>
<subject>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Network, Swarm, Microstructur</subject>
<from>martha rosler</from>
<to>nettime-l@bbs.thing.net</to>
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partial mirror at http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt</content>
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<mail>
<nbr>24.0-p.471</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; what is going on, on nettime?</subject>
<from>geert</from>
<to>nettime-l@bbs.thing.net</to>
<date>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:14:50 +0000</date>
<content>
Well... Alan, nettime being closed off because of lacking nn postings. Many
will find a relief that such postings and related debates no longer happen, but
that's perhaps a personal matter.
What might be true is the shift towards political economy, away from arts and
culture.
The political economy (of new media) thread has been part of nettime from day
one, at least in my understanding. And I am not sure that one can find these
debate anywhere.
It could be the case that the international nettime list lack a common spirit
and direction. Is that what you mean?
The question could be: what moves people these days? I think that's a more
interesting--and urgent--question than the old issue of 'censoring' nn or mez.
Yours,
Geert
From: Alan Sondheim &lt;sondheim {AT} panix.com&gt;
To: soft_skinned_space &lt;empyre {AT} lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au&gt;
Subject: [-empyre-] what is going on, on nettime? (fwd)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:20:22 -0400
nettime-l seems increasingly closed off; numerous voices aren't
heard any more, for example nn, mez, Talan - I wrote them asking
why the list is turning from cultural politics to more or less
straight political economy, which can be found anywhere - the
post was censored. Florian Cramer just stopped the Unstable
Digest - there's no more codework there at all - he left his
co-editors more or less in the lurch, not answering email, then
disappearing, now back on nettime with politics. So that venue's
gone and apparently at this point one can't even question the
list direction onlist.
&lt;...&gt;</content>
</mail>
<mail>
<nbr>25.0</nbr>
<subject>&lt;nettime&gt; Re: on moderation and spams (several messages)</subject>
<from>nettime's_digestive_system</from>