diff --git a/conda_env.yml b/conda_env.yml
index 6e3ab94..11f9052 100644
--- a/conda_env.yml
+++ b/conda_env.yml
@@ -2,8 +2,7 @@ name: listservs
 channels:
   - defaults
 dependencies:
-  - ca-certificates=2019.5.15=0
-  - openssl=1.0.2s=h1de35cc_0
+  - openssl=1.0.2
   - pip=9.0.1=py34_1
   - python=3.4.5=0
   - readline=6.2=2
@@ -11,8 +10,8 @@ dependencies:
   - sqlite=3.13.0=0
   - tk=8.5.18=0
   - wheel=0.29.0=py34_0
-  - xz=5.2.4=h1de35cc_4
-  - zlib=1.2.11=h1de35cc_3
+  - xz=5.2.2
+  - zlib=1.2.8
   - pip:
     - beautifulsoup4==4.7.1
     - click==7.0
diff --git a/lists/crawl.py b/lists/crawl.py
index 582052a..2acba64 100644
--- a/lists/crawl.py
+++ b/lists/crawl.py
@@ -25,13 +25,16 @@ def crawl(url, name, sublist_name=None, archive_dir="archives"):
 
 	# special case -- nettime.
 	# the name should be the sublist_name (i.e nettime-l)
-	elif "nettime" in name:
+	elif "nettime" in url:
 		if sublist_name is None:
 			sublist_name = name
 		mhonarc_nettime.collect_from_url(url, name, sublist_name, archive_dir)
 
-	elif "oldboys" in name:
-		mhonarc_nettime.collect_from_url(url, name, sublist_name, archive_dir)
+	# elif "oldboys" in name:
+	# 	mhonarc_nettime.collect_from_url(url, name, sublist_name, archive_dir)
+
+	# elif "oldboys" in name:
+	# 	mhonarc_nettime.collect_from_url(url, name, sublist_name, archive_dir)
 
 	else:
 		print('mhonarc?')
diff --git a/lists/mhonarc_nettime.py b/lists/mhonarc_nettime.py
index aeba81e..e230594 100644
--- a/lists/mhonarc_nettime.py
+++ b/lists/mhonarc_nettime.py
@@ -131,7 +131,8 @@ def collect_threads_from_url(url, base_archive_dir, mbox=False):
 			logging.info("> " + str(n) + " / " + nbr_threads)
 
 			thread = archive_thread(l, base_url, None)
-			threads['threads'].append(thread)
+			if thread is not None:
+				threads['threads'].append(thread)
 			
 
 			# try:
@@ -159,7 +160,11 @@ def collect_threads_from_url(url, base_archive_dir, mbox=False):
 
 def archive_thread(li, base_url, parent_thread_data):
 
-	thread_link = li.select('strong a')[0]
+	thread_link = li.select('strong a')
+	if len(thread_link) == 0:				# usually "<Possible follow-ups>"
+		return None
+
+	thread_link = thread_link[0]
 	thread_url = urllib.parse.urljoin(base_url, thread_link.get('href'))
 	thread_id = thread_link.get('name')
 	thread_title = thread_link.string
@@ -169,12 +174,15 @@ def archive_thread(li, base_url, parent_thread_data):
 
 	collect_message(thread_url, message)
 
-	follow = li.select('ul > li')
-	if len(follow) > 0:
-		for f in follow:
-			follow_link = f.select('strong a')
-			if len (follow_link) > 0:
-				archive_thread(f, base_url, message)  ## recursion
+	# follow = li.select('ul:nth-of-type(1) > li')
+	ul = li.findChildren("ul" , recursive=False)
+	if len(ul) > 0:
+		follow = ul[0].findChildren("li" , recursive=False)
+		if len(follow) > 0:
+			for f in follow:
+				follow_link = f.select('strong a')
+				if len (follow_link) > 0:
+					archive_thread(f, base_url, message)  ## recursion
 	
 	if parent_thread_data is None:
 		return message